Laura Dern: The great news about the endless challenges you had raising me as a single parent is that, when you brought me with you on location, I got an up-close view of what it really means to be an actor.
Diane Ladd: When I was doing âA Texas Trilogyâ at the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C., in 1976, you were 8 and sat with me during rehearsal. At one point the playâs director said, âDiane, you didnât move there.â I said, âI know where I moved,â and you said, âNo, Mother, heâs right.â You were really paying attention. I didnât want you to go into acting. Itâs a hard business for anyone but, as a woman, they really judge you, and for a lot more than the work. I said, âLaura, be a lawyer. Nobody cares if your backsideâs too big when youâre a lawyer.â
L.D.: Well, women have been traumatized in many industries, but Iâm now in your position, with kids who want to be artists, and I understand why you were protective.
D.L.: Marlon Brando didnât want his kids to act, either. He was vehement. I had a fight with him about it. I said, âIf the universe gives a child a gift, you have to encourage it.â I knew you had the gift when I went to a screening of [Dernâs 1980 film] âFoxes.â You didnât have much to do, but my heart just gasped, like when someone opens a little box and thereâs this gorgeous diamond inside.
L.D.: OK, OK. The thing that inspires me most about your career is that itâs ever-surprising. Around the time we did âRambling Roseâ (1991), where you played the archetype of maternal love, we also worked together in âWild at Heartâ (1990), with you as the Wicked Witch of the East, West, North and South. On a scene level, too, I watched the boldness of your choices. Even if it doesnât make it into the movie, a particular choice might inform another take that does. I can be concerned about whether something I said at a party came out the wrong way but, thanks to you, when Iâm on a set, I donât care because I know itâs a process to get to the truth of a thing.
D.L.: If you want to be great, it means taking good and lighting a fire of truth and risk and belief under it. You were always willing to do that.
L.D.: Do you remember filming that scene in âEnlightenedâ (2011-13) when Iâm deciding between two relationships and [the director] Todd Haynes set up the camera so that we could be truly alone? We were playing the most opposite characters from who we are, and yet it was deeply vulnerable and we knew exactly what we were really saying to each other.
D.L.: Thatâs right. Years later, I ended up in the hospital and we started taking these walks to strengthen my lungs. You got me to walk and talk, and thatâs when we went beyond intuition and voiced everything. If one person reads our book [âHoney, Baby, Mine,â a new collection of conversations between Ladd and Dern] and does the same â really talks to someone they love â writing it wonât have been in vain. Aside from that, all I can offer is a reflection of life itself. Art is just a mirror, and thatâs why we go see movies: to learn who we are.
Interview has been edited and condensed.
